1. Me: Don't you look forward to a time when we can talk about this stuff as "fond" memories?
    2. Brother: What?
    3. Me: You know, instead of talking about it now as like, "fond" present?
    4. Brother: You mean "traumatizing" present?
    5. Me: (laughing) Yes.
    6. Brother: Yes, "traumatizing" memories would be nice.
    7. (proceeds to change subject to why guinea pigs are seen as pets now instead of food)